In Plato Republic, the myth of metals is described as that every citizen born are all brother and sister. However, god has mixed them with different metals. Gold, silver and brass. The gold is for all the rulers, silver is for the assistants/ helpers and the brass is craftsman. He goes on to say that people should be treated as they are born, but if it’s found that someone was to be found to be gold even though born silver or brass then they should be treated as such. This was to be considered a, noble lie. ‘’ A single noble lie that would preferably, persuade even the rulers themselves; but, failing that, the rest of the city.” Plato wants to tell this noble lie because he wants to make sure there is never any controversy over who should …show more content…
it should be that they should have the chance to prove what classification they belong to base on their abilities and qualities they pose. I don’t agree with him wanting to tell this story because in telling this story could damage the rest of the city. Trying to persuade someone of something is not true is not right and can lead to other issues because then the society is built on lies. Plato wants to tell this lie because he feels it would be easier to rule because no one would complain but will treat each other in a better manner because they would like they have the same mother, Plato thinks that myths are just stories people have made up so this story wouldn’t be any different than the rest. This lie would be his way to promote loyalty. Here is the thing if he tells this lie there is always someone that will question it and will seek out the truth. Eventually it will come out that it was a lie, then there would be chaos among the citizens and the
Plato and Iris Young have different perspectives on justice. Plato argues that justice is doing one's own work for which one is best suited for, and not to meddle with other's work outside your class. Iris Young through her "The Myth of Merit" argues that a society in which equal opportunity exists is just. I reject Plato's view, and I side with Iris Young for reasons she does not explicitly mention.
Atlantis was fictional island mentioned within an allegory on the hubris of nations in plato’s works Timaeus and Critias, where it represents the antagonist naval power that besieges. Atlantis sunk into the Atlantic ocean after it was hit by a volcano eruption. Atlantis is 9000 years old, before the time of solon or a approximately 9600 B.C. Atlantis was built around aquaventure, a 141 acre waterscape which include fresh and saltwater lagoons, pools,marine habitats, and water slides and river rides. As of 2014, Atlantis has not been found, but researchers and scientists suggest that had Atlantis ever existed, the ost city would have sunk either during the pleistocene ice ages or around 1500 B.C. The fable of atlantis sinking is found in plato’s writing.
The general argument made by Popper, in the work, The Background of Plato’s Attack Ch. 10: The Open Society and Its Enemies, is that Plato tried to give himself a good reputation and wanted to hide his other, real side. More specifically, he argues that, “... Plato’s continuous efforts to make Socrates re-interpret himself are at the same time Plato’s efforts to quiet his own bad conscious.
How does the story "The Machine Stops" echo the sentiments of Plato in "The Allegory of the Cave"? "The Machine Stops," The two main characters, Vashti and her son Kuno, live on opposite sides of the world. Vashti is content with her life, which, like most people of that world, she spends producing and endlessly discussing secondhand 'ideas '. Kuno, however, is a sensualist and a rebel. He tells Vashti that he has visited the surface of the Earth without permission, and without the life support apparatus supposedly required to survive in the toxic outer air, and he saw other humans living outside the world of the Machine.
He will not allow his lie to ruin the reputation of his
and Mrs. Trump view “themselves as high-minded and well-bred… and superior to those who they deceive.” Plato used the expression noble lie in order to persuade people to accept certain laws or ideas. Deceit is often used by politicians for the sake of convincing people to think a certain way. In many public situations, “deception takes place when the government regards the public as frightened, hostile, or volatile.” Government leaders have the most power since they have the freedom to manipulate and distort facts without the public knowing.
Plato regarded justice as the true principle of social life. Plato in his day found a lot of evil in society. He saw unrighteousness rampant and injustice enthroned.
Such a lie seems to be what Socrates considers a “noble lie”: a useful lie, presumably useful for some noble purpose. And a useful lie, as any other useful contraption, is useful to the extent that it achieves the purpose it set out to do, and the purpose of Socrates’ Noble Lie to Kallipolis was getting people to do their work and no one else’s work, indefinitely. Note that we also stated that the city is just to the extent that people do their work and not anyone else’s work, but there are potentially many things that contribute to this behavioral pattern in a city. That a noble lie is useful does not imply that it alone makes the city just, merely that it helps. However, we set out to ultimately prove that a noble lie makes the city more just, not infinitely just, so this is sufficient.
I believe that Plato believes that people are inherently good and they will do what is morally right and just for society. They will earn their right to power and ensure fairness for all to prevent the tyrants from trying to take control. Plato mentions three main arguments regarding
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The final argument of Plato’s Phaedo was created to prove souls cannot perish. Plato does so by arguing how a soul cannot die nor cease to exist on the same fundamental grounds of how the number three can never be even. For the number three holds the essence of being odd, without being odd entirely. Similarly, a soul holds the essence of life through immortality, however the soul is not immortal itself and only participates in immortality, just as the number three participates in being odd. Additionally, an essence or form cannot admit to the opposite of itself just as small cannot be large simultaneously, and hot cannot be cold.
In his discussion over how the citizens should be educated and how to control their knowledge, the question of the ethical and realistic expectations of the city. However, the problem, or downfall, of Plato’s city is its foundation. A foundation of lies. Plato’s web of lies, falsehoods and manipulation make the entire city
The concept of the Noble Lie is presented by Plato in the Republic. In Republic, Plato is engaged in creating an ideal political community, through the noble lie. The Noble Lie, ironically, despite being a lie, is still recognized as ‘noble’ by Plato since it aims to promote social welfare and harmony amongst the citizens. Plato’s idea of the noble lie led to the division of citizens into three distinct categories, namely, the rulers, the auxiliaries and the workmen . This paper will argue that Socrates principle of the Noble Lie must be considered justifiable under circumstances in which it intends to achieve moral ends.
Although Plato’s Republic is best known for examining the concept of justice, it also heavily centers on the theme of abolition of families. Socrates maintains that in order for the ideal city (Kallipolis) to become just, it needs to function as a single united family that is produced at the expense of dissolving the traditional family unit. This would unequivocally strengthen the loyalty of the Guardian class towards the city since their allegiance would no longer be divided between the private and public spheres. In addition, education plays a critical role in providing the Guardians with the necessary knowledge in performing their duties. It is crucial to note that Socrates provides two distinct accounts for education: how education is viewed
Plato begins the passage by efficiently continuing a conversation regarding the state of women in comparison to man within society. The general message of this text comes to the consensus that women should be included in the many duties that men do, but should be given those duties to a lesser extent to keep women’s involvement in working society to a minimum but still consider them as people. An example this is stated during the conversations’ conclusion which states “They must play their part in war and in all other duties of a Guardian, which will be their sole occupation; only, as they are the weaker sex, we must give them a lighter share of these duties than men” (p. 35). An additional consensus regarding men is formed, stating that not all men are equal to each other (p. 35) and thus requiring a form of educational system to help make the best male (and female) guardians possible, although women are the weaker partners in all aspects. Plato shares this information in an effective way which paints a picture for the observer through a conversation, a discussion about the status of individuals in society and what decisions should be made to help us prosper efficiently, while taking the right actions in regards to other people such as women.